MOTS-c Protocal

PStarted by pep_researcher88

I've read the protocol page for MOTS-c. It says 5-10mg/wk split into 3 days. But has anyone run 1-2mg daily trying to get to that weekly 10mg amount? I also understand the possible desensitization if you run it daily. Just curious if anyone has tried this or has further thoughts.

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The science is super duper thin on this topic. Hence we're all researchers.

Lets go into the data we have first:

Human MOTS-c:

There is no published dose-finding RCT that tested 1x vs 2x vs 3x vs daily in people and showed one schedule wins. The completed human work is mostly on a MOTS-c analog (CB4211), and that was dosed daily (single doses, then daily for 7 days, one cohort 28 days). That tells you daily is tolerable for an analog. It does not prove native MOTS-c needs to be daily.

Pharmacokinetics:

Human plasma half-life is not well published. Estimates people throw around are short (minutes to a few hours). Downstream AMPK / metabolic effects last longer than the peptide sitting in blood. That is why a short half-life does not automatically mean daily injections. It also does not prove once a week is enough.

What the science does not say:

It does not say 5 mg 3x/week is the human dose. That number is clinic/community convention scaled from mice.

It does not say once weekly is optimal.

It does not say daily 5–10 mg is better. Daily in papers ≠ daily at forum bolus doses.

It does not settle AMPK “desensitization.” Chronic AMPK vs mTOR is a real pathway conflict in principle, but nobody has mapped MOTS-c injection frequency onto that in humans.

Honest take from the data, not the vendor blogs, plus I can pull from some personal experience as I'm currently on a cycle of MOTS-c....

Pulsed exposure is consistent with how endogenous MOTS-c behaves (it rises with exercise, but not 24/7).

If you want to stay closest to published schedules, the animal record is daily or 3x/week, and the one analog human trial is daily.

If you want to stay closest to published biology, you pulse AMPK, pair it with a low-insulin / training window, and don’t assume more injections = more effect.

2–3x a week is the zone where I have been administrating and it works well for me. Your mileage may vary. I think a reasonable approach is daily for 1 week as a loading phase and then going to 2 or 3x a week aiming for 10mg total per week. Also remember to administer when fasted, which we do have data suggesting this is the correct method.

So if someone asks “what does the science say, 1x, 2x, 3x, or daily?” the accurate answer is: the science does not pick a human frequency. It supports that MOTS-c can work when given repeatedly over days to weeks, with daily and 3x/week both appearing in the animal literature, and daily in analog human work. Everything else is protocol folklore from Reddit and the like. Sorry not sorry, but I don't put much if any pedigree into anything coming out of the toxic waste dump known as Reddit.

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I'm on MOTS-c right now as well and working through a 40mg vial. I've done two previous cycles and here is what I can offer: they all work...lol. My first cycle I did daily with some missed days here and there because thats what I read to do. No issues to report. I always did it fasted upon waking up. I did this for like 3-4 weeks. 2nd cycle I did 3x a week because I came across other sources that said this was the way to go. In reality I wasn't perfect on the 3x a week, but it was always 2 or 3x. No issues to report here either. I just started a new cycle last week and I'm two doses in at 5mg a pop and going for 1 day a week. No issues to report and I'm not far enough along to say this is the best. What I can offer is that I think daily had the most effect on belly fat or body composition. I seemed to lose weight faster, but could have also have been part of diet and workouts? The 2 or 3x a week I'd say I felt the strongest in the gym or on a run, which would lead me to beilieve there is some desensitization going on. This one day a week schedule now is way more convenient and for the day I'm on it I feel great. Rest of the week is whatever. So yeah they all work fine as far as I'm concerned and I think you should pick what works best with your schedule or workout routine.

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Very few peptides I haven't done at this point and I'm probably in the minority, but I don't care much for this compound. I didn't get anything from it at least that I could tell. I'm already a regular gym bro and go max intensity. Maybe I'm too young (29yo). I also got a nasty sting from mots and a bump under the skin + pain that lasted a few days. It was like being stung by a bee. I was doing the 3x / week protocol.